Repo men charged after injury crash

[anonymous]

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...r-injury-crash

Two repo men were charged with reckless driving after an attempted car repossession led to a crash in front of Krisle Elementary on Friday, Jan. 27.Daniel Jones, 40, of Rock Island, and Keith Russell, 30, of McMinnville, arrived in Springfield shortly before noon to repossess the car of Bobby Dowlen, 30, of Springfield. Jones drove a tow truck and Russell took possession of Dowlen’s car.
When Dowlen saw his car, a Chevy Lumina, being taken, he jumped into the passenger side of the moving vehicle, according to Tennessee Highway Patrol reports.
Russell then proceeded to speed down Highway 49, fighting with Dowlen for control of the vehicle. Then Jones, in the tow truck, cut in front of the vehicle in an attempt to stop the car just in front of Krisle. Jones attempted to turn into the elementary school parking lot, and the Lumina rammed into the driver’s side of the tow truck, overturning in the process.
Highway 49 was temporarily reduced to one lane while the wreckage was cleared.
Russell sustained minor injuries to his legs in the crash and was transported by Robertson County EMS to NorthCrest Medical Center. Both he and Jones were charged with reckless driving, and Russell was also cited for driving on a suspended license and not having his license in his possession.
The Robertson County Sheriff’s Office and the Cross Plains Fire Department also responded on the scene.
Dowlen will not face any charges.

[anonymous]

According to THP reports, the tow truck cut in front of the Lumina, and then the Lumina hit the driver’s side of the tow truck. / Katharine Heriges/Robertson County Times

[Surety]

I wonder how much they charge for a repossession???

[PRAREPO]

I wonder how much they charge for a repossession???

No kidding, who hires these jack wads??? I mean come on another time another place.. Someone is trying to be like Floyd from that show with the wilder beast in the moo moo???

[Gregory Terrell]

No kidding, who hires these jack wads??? I mean come on another time another place.. Someone is trying to be like Floyd from that show with the wilder beast in the moo moo???

you called her a wilderbeast in a moomoo

[PRAREPO]

you called her a wilderbeast in a moomoo

I did! That show makes me irate as the public now EVERYDAY says "oh cool your a repo man huh??? I love that show..."


GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!



Someone shoot the WILDER BEAST!

[Patriot Recovery]

geez.......

what idiots....

however i also see the debtor as an idiot here, and i see potential charges that should be due on all parties involved.

[CWM Asset Recovery]

I agree

geez.......

what idiots....

however i also see the debtor as an idiot here, and i see potential charges that should be due on all parties involved.

Based solely on the discription of the incident, thr repossessor had control and custody of the vehicle, (off the debtors property).

The debtor forceably entered the vehicle on the passenger side and fought with the repossessor for control of a moving vehicle.

The pardner of the repossessor interviened to prevent the debtor from hurting and possablly abducting his pardner.

If this was the case and this had happened in KY, both repossessors would have a viable defence for the use of force up to and including deadly force.

Self defence for the repossessor and third party self defence for the tow truck driver.

It helps if you know the law and how to frame an incident!

[OhioRepo]

Based solely on the discription of the incident, thr repossessor had control and custody of the vehicle, (off the debtors property).

The debtor forceably entered the vehicle on the passenger side and fought with the repossessor for control of a moving vehicle.

The pardner of the repossessor interviened to prevent the debtor from hurting and possablly abducting his pardner.

If this was the case and this had happened in KY, both repossessors would have a viable defence for the use of force up to and including deadly force.

Self defence for the repossessor and third party self defence for the tow truck driver.

It helps if you know the law and how to frame an incident!

No offense but I hope you never have to go through anything where this statement might be used against you. I'm not bashing you I'm just saying this post is public and if you ever had something happen, an attorney could argue this in court.

[CWM Asset Recovery]

In court

No offense but I hope you never have to go through anything where this statement might be used against you. I'm not bashing you I'm just saying this post is public and if you ever had something happen, an attorney could argue this in court.

Firepoman, thanks for your concern. I have been to court many times. I was a Deputy Sheriff before I was the owner / operator of Repossession Company. I am retired now.

The term, framing an incident is not the same as the term "framing" a person.

I think is possible that the two agents have a viable self defense argument. Many people who may be expert in one field, (such as self help repossession), may be unfamiliar with the laws pertaining to self defense.

I am well versed in both.

The police will not assert self defense for you.

You must always make the assertion for yourself.

The reason they will not do this is, self defense is legally dependant on your perception of danger and fear.

Since no one but you, knows what emotion you felt, no one but you,can make the determination of whether it was or was not self defense.

[jclark]

Gentlemen don't be so quick to judge until you have both sides of the story.
First I must say this repossessor is not insured by RSIG.
I know the owner of the company and was the driver of the tow truck, he called me after he got the two out of the car. So here is the other side of the story. The repo guy in the vehicle had keys and had just started the vehicle when the debtor jumped into the drivers side pushing the repossessor aside (but still in the vehicle) toward the passenger side, the debtor took off before the repossessor could get out of the car. The repo guy tried to get him to stop but he would not, the tow truck driver (owner) tried to block the road so his guy could get out but the debtor ran into the truck. The debtor who was driving started swerving to get past the tow truck and rolled the vehicle. When the police showed up the locals knew the debtor, then a Tennessee highway patrol came in and took the debtors word that he was passenger not driver of course they were out of the vehicle and it was the repossessors word against the debtor.
I know this owner and know he is very responsible, know the laws and when in doubt I get a call, he worked for me for 5 years in 1998-2003 and I don't think he would charge any less than the going rates, but I do not know for sure.

[CWM Asset Recovery]

Thank you

Gentlemen don't be so quick to judge until you have both sides of the story.
First I must say this repossessor is not insured by RSIG.
I know the owner of the company and was the driver of the tow truck, he called me after he got the two out of the car. So here is the other side of the story. The repo guy in the vehicle had keys and had just started the vehicle when the debtor jumped into the drivers side pushing the repossessor aside (but still in the vehicle) toward the passenger side, the debtor took off before the repossessor could get out of the car. The repo guy tried to get him to stop but he would not, the tow truck driver (owner) tried to block the road so his guy could get out but the debtor ran into the truck. The debtor who was driving started swerving to get past the tow truck and rolled the vehicle. When the police showed up the locals knew the debtor, then a Tennessee highway patrol came in and took the debtors word that he was passenger not driver of course they were out of the vehicle and it was the repossessors word against the debtor.
I know this owner and know he is very responsible, know the laws and when in doubt I get a call, he worked for me for 5 years in 1998-2003 and I don't think he would charge any less than the going rates, but I do not know for sure.

This information confirms my initial assesment.
This is a self defence situation.
The repossessor was being Kidnaped.
The tow truck driver acted to rescue his pardner, (third party self defence).

[OhioRepo]

Gentlemen don't be so quick to judge until you have both sides of the story.
First I must say this repossessor is not insured by RSIG.
I know the owner of the company and was the driver of the tow truck, he called me after he got the two out of the car. So here is the other side of the story. The repo guy in the vehicle had keys and had just started the vehicle when the debtor jumped into the drivers side pushing the repossessor aside (but still in the vehicle) toward the passenger side, the debtor took off before the repossessor could get out of the car. The repo guy tried to get him to stop but he would not, the tow truck driver (owner) tried to block the road so his guy could get out but the debtor ran into the truck. The debtor who was driving started swerving to get past the tow truck and rolled the vehicle. When the police showed up the locals knew the debtor, then a Tennessee highway patrol came in and took the debtors word that he was passenger not driver of course they were out of the vehicle and it was the repossessors word against the debtor.
I know this owner and know he is very responsible, know the laws and when in doubt I get a call, he worked for me for 5 years in 1998-2003 and I don't think he would charge any less than the going rates, but I do not know for sure.

I'd like to hear this straight from the horses mouth. No offense. And this is exactly why I have a camera mounted on the rear window of my truck. I've yet to encountered a debtor that has not calmed down once I have advised them they are being recorded for their safety and mine. I do have a "good" area with alot of medium to upper income so I do feel lucky that I don't have to deal much with the "hood" areas.

[Patriot Recovery]

Based solely on the discription of the incident, thr repossessor had control and custody of the vehicle, (off the debtors property).

The debtor forceably entered the vehicle on the passenger side and fought with the repossessor for control of a moving vehicle.

The pardner of the repossessor interviened to prevent the debtor from hurting and possablly abducting his pardner.

If this was the case and this had happened in KY, both repossessors would have a viable defence for the use of force up to and including deadly force.

Self defence for the repossessor and third party self defence for the tow truck driver.

It helps if you know the law and how to frame an incident!

Why am I quoted here now, and is this directed at me?

If so, I was looking at it from both sides, since almost all news stories are incomplete.

I can see fault in both sides from a defense attorney standpoint on either sides stance.

I do agree with your initial assesment Bill, however that does not mean thats how it will end up playing out in the long run. I was just playing devils advocate.

[CWM Asset Recovery]

Patroit

Why am I quoted here now, and is this directed at me?

If so, I was looking at it from both sides, since almost all news stories are incomplete.

I can see fault in both sides from a defense attorney standpoint on either sides stance.

I do agree with your initial assesment Bill, however that does not mean thats how it will end up playing out in the long run. I was just playing devils advocate.

If you look at the original post where I made my first comment, I said," I Agree". that was that I agreed with what you said.

You seem a little touchy today ?